URGENT announcement: This concerns my future as a member of Grace Baptist

Grace Baptist Church, Granite City, IL.

I really, really, really do NOT want to be typing about this issue regarding my future membership at my church, Grace Baptist Church... and I have no choice but to do so. The concern is that my church is proposing a Statement on Marriage and Sexuality that will be voted on in the 06.12.2013 business meeting, designed primarily to silence and/or eject me and any other Democrats/LGBTQ rights/pro-reproductive choicers out of the church. As I personally believe that abortion, cohabitation, same-sex marriage, and homosexuality are not sins, this looks like the end of Grace Baptist membership for me, mostly due to the power grab proposal by the GBC higher ups. The proposal will make me end my volunteering opportunities at GBC.

I started attending back in 2000 when my Grandma switched membership from Suburban Baptist Church.
Not long after my Grandma couldn't drive anymore, I relied on the strong and robust bus ministry to take me to and from there. If it weren't for them, I would likely be long from Grace. Also, I gained (and lost) friends during my 12.5 years at Grace Baptist. With that being said, there were bumps in the road along the way, such as attacks on my Christianity and liberalism in later years (primarily from Ron Martin), especially for endorsing President Obama and supporting abortion rights and same-sex marriage.


How I became pro-choice and pro-marriage equality, which ties into this a lot: I'd say sometime between the election of Obama in 2008 and being in Ms. Ames' economics class and the passage of the Hate Crimes Law in 2009 for the latter. For the former, it was around the time that Dr. Tiller got killed that changed my views on abortion from leaning personally pro-life but not for restrictive abortion laws to pro-choice and even moreso recently. However, I am still opposed to assisted suicide.

There were lots of changes during that period, including:

• Bro. Steve Trask became music director in 2001. 
• realignment of the children's classes back in 2002 to coincide with the then-realignment of K-5 Elementary, 6-8 MS, 9-12 HS at GCSD9. (now changed to K-4 Elementary, 5-6 Intermediate, 7-8 Middle/Junior High, 9-12 HS at GCSD9)
• Bro. John Oswald named associate pastor in 2004. 
• the move to a new auditorium (from the old sanctuary, which is the current youth/multipurpose room) in 2005.
• Bro. Ben Towell named youth director in 2005.
• the abolishment of choir robes somewhere shortly after the new auditorium was completed.
• In 2006, the youth department moved to the old sanctuary.
• In October 2008, the church went to 2 Sunday services/2 Sunday Schools (9:15 and 10:45AM).
• October 2009 was the big Awakening event.
• former pastor Bro. John Gamblin resigned during the middle of the St. Louis Cardinals World Series run in October 2011.
• Thom and Rosie Wells quit the bus ministry on a regular basis in February 2012. They both still sub on Sunday Mornings and at VBS when warranted. 
• Weekly bus breakfasts were abolished in April 2012.
• associate pastor Bro. John Oswald left in August 2012. 
• The reversion back to the single Sunday morning worship service (10:45)/Sunday School (9:15) at the start of 2013.
• Bro. Daniel Wilson voted in on May 5th, 2013 and officially will take over on June 30th, 2013. 

What the odious anti-religious and anti-LGBTQ rights bill really does:

The statement that says "...It is imperative that all persons employed by the Church in ANY capacity, or who serve as volunteers, should abide by and agree to this Statement on Marriage and Sexuality conduct themselves accordingly" is the biggest reason why I am considering leaving Grace Baptist Church. It means that if the proposal passes, bye-bye VBS volunteering like I did the past two years, as I do NOT intend to follow the new M&S statement.



Why I will decide to leave Grace Baptist?

• The theological and political differences are already distant as it is between me and other members and are too great to overcome.
• I have nearly came close to being forced out of there due to Ronald Martin's blatant lies about me and his theology. 
• The church's lobbying efforts (albeit not very intense) to defeat and/or stall marriage equality in Illinois and at the Supreme Court. 
• Attacks on abortion rights, most infamously during the Super Bowl 2013 sermon by Interim Pastor Charley Westbrook. 

What to do after my likely leave from Grace? I will be headed to a new church that is at least somewhat more in line with my theological and political viewpoints, and it will be St. John UCC in Granite City. And that may start after my vacation on the last weekend of June.



If this proposal takes effect immediately, then the last Sunday I'll be at Grace as a regular attender will be either on 06.16 or 06.23 (when Pastor Daniel Wilson will preach). This is NOT a joke at all. That also means the end of posting announcements on the group's facebook page. In addition, my fantasy football career with the church is in great peril.
UPDATE: I am sticking with Grace until at least August or until expulsion.


I urge all the congregants to vote NAY on Wednesday night, 06.12.2013, and plan on showing up to vote NO on this idea, although the idea will pass by a big margin sadly. Even if I get expelled for voting NAY on this idea, it is worth the price.

Destroying Ron Martin's Lies (July 2010)

Justin Gibson

I don't miss Bush the 2x Illegally Elected President. This man ruined the country.

Debbie Hodgin Yancey

If Bush ruined the country you haven't seen ANYthing yet!
Obama has given us 10x the amount of debt, he has snubbed our friends, bowed to our enemies, illegally taken over private business, ignored our constitution and thats all in 18 months.
Say what you will about "W"at least he was compentent and knew how to lead, remember 911, Obama Is In Over His Head = OIIOHH!!!
Worst President EVER!!!

Justin Gibson

@Debbie: Obama has NOT ignored the Constitution, he did NOT bow to enemies, hasn't snubbed our friends. All of which are right-wing talking points you're spewing out.

Ronald Martin

Justin: You are not a very smart person. You should be smart enough if you have ever read the constituition. He has bowed to all of americas enemies. Talks down to america like it is dirt. Where have you been justine? Do you own a radio or tv? I can buy you one. But you are like all the other liberals who are against something. But have never read the bill. When you make the statements you make it makes you look foolish.

Ronald Martin

The constitution also states that congress can only pass a law that would also have to pertain to congress. In other words if we are forced into socialized care. Congress must be under the say policy. Why does congress exclude themselves from the health care they passed? Because they know they will be getting the same health care as the us citizens. Which is disgraceful. You are a laughing stock when you say that obama isn't disregarding the constitution.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: I own a television and a radio. I know that Fox News is telling lies.

Congress is NOT excluded from the new health care bill. Obama does NOT Talk Down to America, and never has.

Ronald Martin

Apparently justin has not ever read the constitution like all of the other liberals.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: I have read the Constitution. You are too busy reading the GOP Talking Points memos to even think rationally.

Ronald Martin

Justin: You only say that because your liberal media tells you that. Can'y you think on your own and make an intelligent decision ?

Ronald Martin

Justin: Apparently you haven't read the constitution. If you have we would be in total agreement. Or you don't know how to interpret it like you don't know how ti interpret the bible. Like thou not kill means you shouldn't take anyones innocent life like abortion.

Justin Gibson

Ron, I can think on my own and make an intelligent decision, unlike you having to rely on what Boss Limbaugh, Niyazov Beck, Dana Loesch, Sean Hannity, Billo The Clown, Fox Noise, Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, and the Conservative Hate Merchants for your opinions.

Ronald Martin

Justin: You are wrong about everything. You liberals are all the same. Anyone who doesn't want to be the governments puppet or give up there constitutional rights hate this country. Your mind is very very warped with the liberal hate media of America. My decision is not based on any of the conservatives you mention. For one thing I work 55 hours per week and don't have time to listen to liberals all day who hate America. You need to get a real life and a job.

Ronald Martin

Since you don't work for a living you can listen to liberal media garbage all day. I have a real life Justin. And most of peoples negative view of obama is because of the issues. My view is seeing how others peoples lives have been damaged deeply by obamas policys. And there are several of my friends who were once democrat that will never vote that way again. Polls reveal that 60% of those who voted for obama the first time. Won't vote for him the second time.

Justin Gibson

Ron, your brain is warped by the Conservative Media of America. And Liberals do NOT hate America. I am going to college this fall.

Ronald Martin

When justine makes such remarks as he does against the tea party. He will be judged by GOD for such remarks. Justine is a person who never thinks before he speaks. To say that quote tea party hating muslims is radical. This gives those who don't want to harm Americans who are muslims fueling hatred towards Americans. He can never win an argument because he is not a logical person.

For a person who claims to be a christian like Justin makes christians look bad. By looking at Justins writing on political issues. He is always one sided. Ones like Justine make the church look bad. Because those who aren't christians and look at Justine and think. If this is the way a christian is suppose to act and think. I don't want a part of christianity. But of course a person who thinks the way he does is abnormal. Thank God that there is very few people who think and believe like Justin.

@Ron: You are a teabagging quack, and repeating the GOP Talking Points makes your brain rot faster.

The tanning tax is to pay for the health bill. That is 10% of the earnings go to the health care plan. The best way to defeat socialism and obamacare is to not go to the tanning spas.

Ron, I do NOT go tanning, so this issue isn't a direct concern with me.

Justin Gibson

This man, Rujon Williams, is spewing out falsehoods.

Justin: You only say this because he is a conservative african american. If this person was white and a liberal or socialist. You would believe every word he says. If this person was Jesus Christ you would calll him a lier. You liberals are the ones who spew out lies and hatred.

@RON: It is the Teabaggers and Righties are the ones who make up lies, slander, and hatred.

From the St. Louis Activist Hub: Dana Loesch (who was responsible for Classic99's demise) and Jim Hoft caught being race-baiters while claiming that the "NCAAP is racist." Proof that the Right does all this nonsense.
http://stlactivisthub.blogspot.com/2010/07/hoft-and-loesch-lie-while-accusing.html

Ronald Martin

Justin: Everything on this issue you uphold is false and based on lies. Try to find someone else to be your puppet like you are to the liberals.

Ron: I am NOT a puppet for the DNC/MSNBC/MMfA/Daily Kos/HuffPo, unlike you that relies on being a puppet for the RNC/Fixed News/Rush/Palin/GOP.

Ronald Martin

Justin: At least I am on the right and majority side.

@Ron: The "Majority" you Conservatives have is phony, and people like you and your ideas are a decent-sized and vocal minority. There are more registered Democrats to registered Republicans. These are the real facts.


"Can you tell at least one truth today justin? But you have 60% of those who voted for obama the first time. Will not vote for him this next time. Plus there are millions of independents and democrats who are switching there part to the conservatives. Do you every watch tv. If you do you will get your facts straight."

"Put your money where your mouth is justin. People will take America back. I haven't lost a bet with you yet. You are 0 for 5."

Justin Gibson

Name the 5 races that I lost, Ron. I know at least 2 offhand: Coakley's loss to Brown and the Halter's AR Democratic runoff loss to Blanche.

I will definitely win the NV-Sen race pick for Harry Reid b/c Sharron Angle is insane, and hopefully Kentucky's Senate seat. I also am going to win the Illinois senate seat and gov picks.

Justin: If you call the majority of the people in america phony. That is ok because we love our God and Constitution. Liberals and Socialist don't love America.

@Ron: Liberals and "Socialists" love America just as much as you bomb-throwing Righty vermins do.

Ronald Martin Can you count past 2? Sharon Angle is insane because she isn't a liberal or socialist and doesn't bow down to obama like you do. Angle is ahead in Nevada by 12% points.

Polls: Pollster has Angle ahead 6.7, 47.6-40.9. http://www.pollster.com/polls/nv/10-nv-sen-ge-avr.php

The Angle being 12%+ up is likely from Rasmussen.


Glenn Beck's school, called Beck University (Beck U), is where all the uneducated Teabaggers are welcome to learn about the lies put out by Lonesome Rhodes Beck and his ilk.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070052

Ronald Martin

You have to love God and the Constitution in order to love America. Conservatives preserve the constitution. And justin you do need some mental help. It's us conservatives who love the unborn. Not throw them away and slaughter them within the womb like liberals. Liberals and socialist could never love life and people as much as conservatives. So what you are saying is that most people on your face book are uneducated.

Ronald Martin Justin: So if you are saying that if no one believes what you believe in. Then they are uneducated. So how many people on your face book are christians and conservatives. And if they aren't like you they are stupid. This really shows how smart you are when you say obama isn't the furthest president on the left. No other liberal or socialist ever wanted a bothed baby to lay there and die.

@Ron: You are telling fibs about my views. Ron, the reason that you are lying about Obama is because you have been reading too much FreeRepublic and NewsMax. Obama is NOT a "Baby Killer" at all. He is NOT a Far Left Marxist like you tools make him out be. It's people of your ilk that and dangerous to America.

Ronald Martin So justin if we love God, Country, or the Constitution then we are bad people. I will go along with that. I would rather be a conservative then a liberal or socialist anytime. I couldn't be a liberal or socialist because I don't have the guts to go around all day and feeding people lies. I have to look at myself in the mirror and answer to God.

Ron, the reason that you are lying about Obama is because you have been reading too much FreeRepublic and NewsMax. Obama is NOT a "Baby Killer" at all. He is NOT a Far Left Marxist like you tools make him out be.

Ron, Liberals don't go around screeching lies about people, unlike those on the Uber-Right who do the same thing.



This past Sunday, he brought up the debunked "I stir up people at church" claim yet again. He said that "Glenn Beck backs up everything with facts." "He is a Christian, so by bashing him, you would be against God." Um, Beck just spews lies out of his orifice, just like the rest of the FNC clowns. Also said that "Palin has more experience than Obama." He spun the Joy-FM's signal stealing as this: "Classic99 had low ratings." Um, it may have had "low ratings," but 94+% of its listeners were core and loyal listeners. In the afternoon, he mentioned that Teabagger (former Democrat) Richard Trindle was busted for smoking, when he said "I quit smoking." Mike Hankes was mad.

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This Sunday (07.18.2010): The 3+ years of the Sunday Debate Bus ends, in which Me and Ron plus his cohorts argued about the issues. I nearly always took the Liberal side, whereas Ron plus his cohorts were the Conservatives. We brought up the AZ SB1070 Law. Ron said "It's the same thing that the Feds are neglecting to enforece." Wrong. It is a Hitler-style, repulsive, racist, and toxic law. Albert Pujols agrees with me here. Ron said he is "Stupid to say that, and he is a Christian." He also said that the Tea Parties are not racist and the NAACP are phonies. If you believe that garbage, then it is time to check yourself into a rubber room, next to quacks Sharron Angle, Michele Bachmann, etc... He baselessly claimed that "Felons stole the election for Al Franken" when he won fair and sqaure. He said some tired old crap that is debunked like "Obama's a Muslim," "Obama's a Kenyan," "The 'Liberal, Socialist Media' put Obama in office" and some warped shit like that.

Destroying Ron Martin's Lies (June 2010)

This is the story of a man who I ride the church van that is intentionally fabricating and distorting my viewpoints on everything. It is Ron Martin. He's the man who's behind the false accusation that I purposefully stir up the church and intentionally harm the old ladies' feelings. But during the phone call between me and Alicia Gaines, she said that "You didn't mean to harm their feelings, Justin, but for the feeling's sake...", it was best to avoid politics at all costs on church property. Which I think resembles totalitarianism and Fascism. The pastor is also an accomplice by aiding the liar. Here we go with the other blatant falsehoods he's been spewing out:

Ronald Martin So Justin you say those who love this country enough and are quote conservatives are mentally ill. This goes to show how liveral you are.

For one thing Justin George Bush would have never made law something that was unconstitutional or against the will of the people. He loves and respects the Will Of The People to much to make such a fatal decision. What a change that Obama has made for us. Our unemployment rate has doubled since he came to power. An...d experts say that the decisions he has made will effect the economy for the next ten years.

The sad part Justin is that a large percentage of these tea baggers are democrats and liberals. And these people love America more then you ever will. These are the people who love America and the Constitution of the United States. These quote tea baggers are people who will be willing to stand up and die for this Country. Will you?

49 minutes ago

Ronald Martin What did Hillary Clinton do with this situation? She flew her friend back to the United States. You might ask why did Hillary do this? Because she knew it could take days before a doctor could ever see her. This also came from the liberal media whom Justin worships. You might ask the question. If Justin believes ...everything the liberal media says then why doesn't he believe this?

It sounds like selective hearing to me.

Ronald Martin When Justin Gibson says that Canadas health care (Government led without there vote are consent) is better then that of the United States. This guy must have fell asleep 20 years ago and hasn't woke up yet. This person must not own a tv or watches the news. Before Obama became president Hillary Clinton had one of her friends with her in Canada. At that time her friend became very sick.

See Moreabout an hour ago

Ronald Martin

It becomes a sad world when the socialist media can get someone like Justin to believe that George Bush planned the 911 terrorist attacks on America. This can go to show you how easily people can be brain washed. The really sad and scary part is he believes it. But Justin will have to face the white throne of God like everyone else does. Having... See More to pay for the slander and lies which he so often uses. The hatred he has against those who love America is without words to describe. This has become a sick world. The bible describes the punishment that will come to those who make accusations against those that bring a charge against those who spread such lies and deceit. When all a person has to do is stay on face book for hours and slander the conservative right for loving America. Have a lot of emotional and mental problems.

Ronald Martin

Justin: If anyone looks at your face book they can tell where your heart is. Every thing you put on it is 99% politics. And all of it is the lies and liberal media puts out. How can a person live with themselves when they can't find better things to do in life. You can really use some help Justin. The sad part is if the liberal media told you that the earth was square. You would find your away around to believing it. So sad.

"Justin: You don't ever want to know the truth. Because it would make you look like a fool. Apparently you never read the news how government health care has destroyed there country and left them broke. You will never have an argument for health care because you don't have the common sense to what is right and what is wrong. Every word you always use is the same ones the socialist and media uses. You sound like a broken record. But most people are smart enough justin that the people has spoken. You could never go one on one with someone who knows the truth about health care. I guess Jesus was right when he said that it is easier to believe a lie then the truth."

"If you have such a hatred for people who wants to stand up for america and what's right. Then you would be person that people from russia who will bow down too. You can't be a socialist and love this country also. Like the bible say you will love one and hate the other. It's apparent what side you are on. Like the bible says many people will perish for the lack of wisdom. "

"You are living on another planet. When you say fox is slanted. Some people don't like it because it tells the truth. And a lot of people don't want the truth to be known. Because it will show how much they had there head in the sand. The truth shall set you free. Amen"

Justin Gibson - Buzz - Public - Muted

More on the Me and Ron war: Ron, I own a TV and watch the news (MSNBC and local news). I am awake to know that the Teabaggers and the Republicans are wrong for this country.

YOU are losing -1,000,000 Cool Points for your falsified smears against me, and you are still asleep being fed the latest GOP Talking Points.Edit

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My reply to Ron Martin, whose head is up Dana Loesch's hiney: Ron, I do not have mental and emotional problems. I am a normal man who's just interested in politics (Liberal at that) and sports. Remember that Conservatism is a mental disorder.Edit

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More of this sicko Teabagger's lies: Justin: If anyone looks at your face book they can tell where your heart is. Every thing you put on it is 99% politics. And all of it is the lies and liberal media puts out. How can a person live with themselves when they can't find better things to do in life. You can really use some help Justin. The sad part is if the liberal media told you that the earth was square. You would find your away around to believing it. So sad.

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Justin Gibson

The firing and/or resigning of teachers who speak with a heavy accent is downright discriminatory against Hispanic teachers and going to hurt the teaching pool even further.

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This is what this right-wing bastard Ron Martin said: It becomes a sad world when the socialist media can get someone like Justin to believe that George Bush planned the 911 terrorist attacks on America. This can go to show you how easily people can be brain washed. The really sad and scary part is he believes it. But Justin will have to face the white throne of God like everyone else does....This is what this right-wing bastard Ron Martin said: It becomes a sad world when the socialist media can get someone like Justin to believe that George Bush planned the 911 terrorist attacks on America. This can go to show you how easily people can be brain washed. The really sad and scary part is he believes it. But Justin will have to face the white throne of God like everyone else does. Having... See More to pay for the slander and lies which he so often uses. The hatred he has against those who love America is without words to describe. This has become a sick world. The bible describes the punishment that will come to those who make accusations against those that bring a charge against those who spread such lies and deceit. When all a person has to do is stay on face book for hours and slander the conservative right for loving America. Have a lot of emotional and mental problems.




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I am a proud Liberal and a voter of the Democratic Party.
This man is a deranged whackjob Teabagging Conservative and a coward who loves to delete my liberal views and any sort of political material. He is just like that Feminazi Dana Loesch, who does very similar cowardly things. This man has lost a ton of Cool Points for his repeated and incessant attacks about me, my patriotism, my emotional and mental being, and he is doing this just because I am a proud Liberal American that Supports The Troops. The way this man is behaving is very un-Christian-like and he will be in Hell and not Heaven. You will get called out as long as you spew your falsehood-based drivel!

Update:

Justin: It is a shame you have so much hatred towards Sarah Palin. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she can't do the same job as a man. I believe if most ladys knew how you degrade them behind there backs. They will be shocked. Just because your liberal media hates the fact of a woman beigh President.. Doesn't mean you have to follow in there foot steps.

Justin Gibson

I hate to break this to you, Ron: The Reason that I LOATHE Palin is that she'll make our country worse than what Bush or Obama would ever do. I am NOT against a woman president, but Palin's not the right choice to lead our country.

Ronald Martin

Go tell your lies ti people that might believe you. You aren't talking to someone who is stupid.

Justin Gibson

Like I said, the Health Care Reform is NOT going to destroy small businesses. It isn't a government takeover.

Ronald Martin

If you would defend America and the Constitution more then you would defend Obamas socialist agenda. We can carry on an intelligent conversation. But until then It would be better to leave your opinion to yourself. Thank You P.S. If you love socialized health care so much. You need to move to Canada and wait to see a doctor weeks later.

Ronald Martin

It's a shame you hate Sarah Palin so much. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean she can't to the same job a man can do. You have so much hatred towards what's good is scary. I am surprised you have any lady friends. Especially if they knew how you degrade them behind there backs. Shame Shame

Justin Gibson

The Reason that I LOATHE Palin is that she'll make our country worse than what Bush or Obama would ever do. I am NOT against a woman president, but Palin's not the right choice to lead our country.

Ronald Martin

Who says that she is unqualified? Your liberal media? Sarah Palin has double the approval rating that Obama has now.

Justin Gibson

Among Republicans/Teabaggers, yes. Overall, Obama has higher approval ratings than Palin. You are getting your research from Rasmussen.

Ronald Martin

So what you are admitting is that a woman can't do the same job as a man.

Justin Gibson

Ron, quit distorting what I say and take them out of context like with the false-flag lie about me stirring up in church.

Ronald, You are this week's Tool Of The Week.

Ronald Martin

No. I am getting my information from you liberal media. Is that a shock?

Ronald Martin Justin: You have told me numerous times that it would be a shame for a woman to be in the white house. Did you forget or do you have a selective memory? You can lie to me Justin but you can't lie to God.

Ronald Martin

I am not taking it out of context. You told me many times that it is a shame for a woman to be in the white house. I guess you have a selective memory.

3 minutes ago

Justin Gibson

I did NOT say those things about a shame for ANY woman to be in office, just Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann, who are Radical quacks.

Ronald Martin

Justin I think you are the quack. I think you need some help.

Ronald Martin

Why are you being dishonest with me Justin?

Justin Gibson

No, I think YOU'VE been dishonest and telling false fibs about Liberals because Dana Loesch told you to do so.

Ronald Martin

For one thing Justin I don't know who Dana Loesch is. I don't have all day to stay home like you and listen to the liberal media slam america. I love my country to much to listen to the garbage you listen too.

Ronald Martin You need to get a real life instead of spreading the hatred and lies you hear from your liberal media.

Justin Gibson

Ron: Dana Loesch is a VERY Right-Wing Tea Party Radical who hosts a show on KFTK (97.1 FM NewsTalk).
http://www.971talk.com/Dana.aspx

Ronald Martin

Thanks for letting me know. Is being radical wrong? If it was bad or wrong then I wouldn't be your friend either. Being from the tea party is not also a bad word. It is people who love this country and don't want the radical socialist taking our rights away.

Justin Gibson

Ron, in spite of your VERY Conservative views, I'm still your buddy.

Ron, the "So-Called Liberal Media" is NOT bashing America.

Ronald Martin

Justin I will always be your buddy no matter what. But when it comes to politics you only see one side of the picture. Ron

Justin Gibson

I am a supporter of Net Neutrality because if there is no Net Neutrality, then internet service/telco providers can do anything they want like putting sites on the slow lane or not work at all with impunity.

Ronald Martin

Being conservative is a very good word. It means not having to spend or borrow money that doesn't belong to the Government.

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Ronald Martin

You are sounding more like a socialist every day. Wanting liberals and socialist to control our lives like Russia. You need to move to Russia with all the other liberals and socialist. You are a disgrace to this country. And the people who are willing to die for it.

I bet the Founding Fathers would be embarrassed about the Teabaggers and rolling over in their graves.

Ronald Martin

I am sorry Justin that our founding fathers of the Constitution were not liberal or socialist. It is the power of the people and not the government. Are you telling me that if our socialist party agreed to pass a law that allows people to legally molest little children. And the people didn't have a chance to vote on it. How upset do you think society will be? The administration that is in now would be considered traders of the Constitution.

Ronald Martin

The sad part is that most liberals haven't had time to read the Constitution. What part about the constitution when it says the power of the people that liberals and socialist don't understand. This is why we are leading to a socialist and communist country because there are people like you who don't give a damn.

9 minutes ago

Ronald Martin

LOOK OUT AMERICA BECAUSE YOUR GUNS ARE NEXT

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Justin Gibson

Obama is NOT going to ruin the economy. It's Bush's and the greedy CEOs faults for the economy slowdown.

The Conservatives/Teabaggers are NOT winning the Senate and/or the House back in November. Keep dreaming, Ron!

about a minute ago

Ronald Martin

I guess you haven't been watching the news foe the past year justin. Where have you been. Even your own liberal, socialist party even predicts that the conservatives will win. Are you calling you own party a lier? Unemployment has more then doubled since Obama has been in office. Have you forgotten that bush is not president now?

Justin Gibson

I know that Bush is no longer the President, but he gets a lot of the blame for the economy's collapse. (It's NOT Barney Frank's fault either).

I know that Repubs will win some seats, but NOT enough to overtake for the lead.

Yes, I watch the news, mostly on MSNBC and the local news.

Ronald Martin

If Obama was President for the next one hundred years. You would still blame Bush for everything that is going bad. What a sad story. This is the same old story. America is not that dumb or stupid to blame something on bush when he is not even President. A lousy excuse for not handling responsibility for your own party.

Ronald Martin

Justin you don't have no credibility. You always repeat the same old garbage the liberal media repeats. Blame bush Blame bush

Justin Gibson

The one person's that lacking credibility when it comes to politics is you. You're the one that's regurgitating the Dittohead Talking Points of the day and swallow them as facts.

Ronald Martin

Justin you need to take a course in economics. Barney Frank stole millions fro the American people. If it is bushes fault as to why the economy is the way it is. Bush hasn't been President going on two years. Why hasn't Obama been able to help the economy? Double unemployment since bush left office. Millions have lost there jobs.

Justin Gibson

Ron, the only reason you're blaming Barney Frank for this is because he is openly Gay, and you know it.

Obama's trying to help our country get out of the mess that War Criminals Bush and Cheney made.

Did Sean Hannity call you into a meeting to help plot how the Teabaggers are supposedly "taking back our country with force, etc..."?

Michael Staicoff

What Force??

Holly Clark

It doesn't matter if you think Bush/Obama made the wrong decisions, as Christians we are called to pray for our leaders, even when we don't agree with them. BTW we shouldn't stand up for Liberals, Conservatives, Teabaggers whatever... we should stand up for God's truth and vote for those with Godly principles then maybe we can see 2 Chronicles 7:... See More14 ... which is what our country needs.

if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Ronald Martin

Thanks for letting me know Barney Frank is gay. I never did know that. You keep repaeting the same words the liberals use. As for as the war goes it took the liberals votes to allow the war to happen. At least Bush allowed everyone to vote on the issue. It is not like health care (socialism) where we didn't have our choice to vote. You are like Obama that you can never put the blame where it belongs. And that is on yourself.

Um, Ron, The Health Care Issue WAS voted on fairly, just like the war.

Devonna Rozell

Interesting thoughts on the economy let's look deeper at the federal reserve chairman he was in office through both presidents, the US needs a new market (farming, industrialization, technology) I agree, but Healthcare and greening the government is not the answer! What about all the committees from Congress that are responsible for the oversight and regulating the economy? There's more than enough blame to go around for both the Democrats and Republicans. None are without fault. I think we need Term limits on Congress AND we need balance - right not there are NO checks and balances and our government needs checks and balances to remain a republic - too much power corrupts.
I agree with you Ron we must stand for something or we will fall for anything! And the Bible is the true source of wisdom.

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Justin Gibson

Steve King (R-IA) is lying here. Obama is doing what's best for our country.

Ronald Martin

He is only lying in your eyes because he is a conservative and loves this country. If this was hitler and he was a liberal. You would believe him in a heart beat. Your mind and heart is so twisted. I only believe the power of God will let you see the truth. If Jesus Christ was a republican or conservative you would also call him a lier. HOW SAD / GET RIGHT OR GET LEFT

Justin Gibson

@Ron: Jesus Christ is NEITHER a Republican, a Democrat, a Libertarian, or any other party except Nonpartisan Independent. Hitler did not have one iota of a Liberal in him. I know all Dems and most Repubs wouldn't believe Hitler at all.

Ronald Martin

If the democrat party doesn't believe in the same as what hitler did (MURDER). Then why do they have the law of killing and aborting babies before they are born. My constitution says that everyone (even babies in the womb) has the right to life. liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You aren't guaranteed that right if you are killed before you are to take a breath.

Ronald Martin

But of course people like you who are liberal or socialist don't believe in the Constitution. Obama would love you.

Justin Gibson

Ron, us Liberals do believe in the Constitution-- the very same one that Bush trashed on. Also, abortion is NOT murder. I don't agree with the PRACTICE of abortion, but the woman should have the right to CHOOSE an abortion if she wants to.

Ronald Martin

JUSTIN / IN GODS EYES MURDER IS MURDER For one thing bush believed in the constitution. He would have never forced health care on society. This is the difference between conservatives and liberals. Bush believed in the power of the people. Not the power of socialist. With obama passing the health care bill. It's the first time in history that the a president has gone against the power of the people.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: When Obama passed the historic Health Care Bill back on 03.21.2010, it was voted on by the House and the Senate. The house had voted 219-212 in favor (0 GOP for) and the Senate 60-39-1. Some Liberals opposed it because it wasn't far enough and lacking the Public Option, not because it was "socialist."

Ronald Martin

The only thing that is historic about it is. The American people didn't have a chance to vote on it. Every other country that has socialized health care was by a government who wouldn't allow the public to vote on it. That is because they know that the votes won't be there. Every country now that has government health care is going broke. Do you ever pay attention to the news? You can watch my tv if you don't have one.

Justin Gibson

Ron, I do have a TV in my room, like most normal Americans do. I watch the news, mostly from MSNBC and local news. I am convinced that Fixed News and Fixed "Out Of" Business are GOP Propaganda outlet centers.

Ronald Martin

You are lying again justin. You are upset that fox news is the number one news media in the united states. You are still in denial. The truth of anything really hurts you. This was voted on by hundreds of thousands of people who watch all the networks. You are unable to accept the truth. So what you are saying is those who voted it number one, that they are lying and are stupid.

Ronald Martin

This is the mind set of most liberal and socialist. That if you don't accept or agree with everything I say. Then everybody is dumb and stupid. And they don't know how to make an intelligent decision. SO SO SAD

Justin Gibson

The people that think the RNC News Channel is "Fair and Balanced" are misinformed and braindead sheep. ABC News, CBS News and NBC News all have more ratings than FNC. Sure, Fixed News is rated #1 amongst the CABLE Newsers, but is dead last in journalism.

Ronald Martin

You don't have your facts together Justin. So you are still saying that anyone who doesn't act, think, or believe in what you believe in. They are misinformed and brainwashed. These are the exact same words the liberal media uses for those who don't bow down to socialism and obama. S A D A G A I N

Ronald Martin

If the liberal media told you that the earth was square. Those who believe it is round by facts and not fiction. You would believe it is square. It is sad that you are a follower instead of a leader. You would make a great puppet.

Justin Gibson

Ron, I am NOT a puppet and can think on my own. You, on the other hand, can't think without resorting to the usage of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, FNC, Hannity, or the GOP's Talking Points Du Jour and are a tool for them.

Ronald Martin

For one thing justin you don't know what I listen or watch. There you go again making statements without know the facts. I know more about what the truth is in government and politics. And I have better things to do in life then sit around the tv all day listening to things that are based on lies. I have a responsibility in life by doing the thing that's called work. I also work around 55 hours per week. I don't have the time you do.

Ron, I KNOW you watch Fixed News and masturbate to Martha MacCallum, Megyn Kelly, Alisyn Camerota, and the other hotties at FNC/FBN.

Ronald Martin sorry / listen to or watch

Ronald Martin You will always say that obama is correct because you are a liberal and socialist. This is a no brainer. If you would believe and trust in God more than obama. Then you will be a much wiser person.

WILL THERE BE ENOUGH AMERICANS THAT WILL WAKE UP BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION SO THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT BECOME A COMMUNIST COUNTRY ? I BELIEVE GOD IS ALLOWING US ONE MORE CHANCE TO PROVE HOW MUCH WE LOVE THIS COUNTRY.

IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IF OBAMA SPEND MORE TIME IN CREATING JOBS AND FIXIXING THE OIL CRISIS. AMERICA WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF. BUT HE IS SPENDING MORE TIME ON TAKING AMERICAS RIGHTS AWAY WITH TURNING THIS COUNTRY INTO A SOCIALIST AND COMMUNIST COUNTRY. IF BUSH WAS STILL PRESIDENT AND DIDN'T ACT WITHIN A FEW DAYS WITH THE OIL CRISIS. THE SOCIALIST MEDIA WOULD HAVE BEEN READY TO HANG HIM.

Justin Gibson

I hate to break this to you, Ron, but the Teabagging Conservatives are NOT taking back the House and/or the Senate. They will get some seats, but not enough to overtake. The US is NOT gonna become a "Communist Country" anytime soon.

Ronald Martin

I don't know where you get your information. Even your own socialist liberal party say that the conservatives will make a massive gain. You have been wrong everytime when you say your party will win re-election.

Oh, here he goes with blaming Liberals again, using screed from the FreeRepublic.

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Justin Gibson

The judge down in New Orleans, Martin Feldman, made an asinine ruling today, thus blocking the 6-Month moratorium.

I wanted the 6-month moratorium to stay.

Ronald Martin THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY. THEY DONATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY. THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS AND SOCIALIST WANT. IS TO DO AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTION. THE HEALTH CARE PASSAGE WITH OVER TWO THIRDS OF AMERICANS DISAPPROVE. PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP TO THE TRUTH.... BUT THE QUESTION IS WILL IT BE A LITTLE TO LATE FOR AMERICA ? OBAMAS NEXT GOAL IS TO BAN GUNS.

Justin Gibson

The Liberals do NOT want to get rid of the Constitution, and Obama's NOT going to ban guns. So just drop it with the insane Dittohead-aided Talking Points already!

Also, the approval/disapproval of the HCR Issue, per Real Clear Politics: 49.8 Oppose-43.0 Favor. So that 2/3 of Americans disaprove claim is false. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html#polls

Ron: Justin: You need God and every ones prayers. How long will you continue to shame God ? You are not a dumb or stupid person. When you degrade the tea party. You degrade God and those who love America. Get right with God or get left.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: The reason I call out the Tea Party is that they're in the tank for the GOP and in bed with it. I am NOT degrading God and America. It's conservatives and teabaggers that are pissing on America right now, and I bet God would send Beck and his minions to Hell. The Tea Parties are nothing more than a protest against the Democratic Party and Obama.

Ronald Martin

You are a mentally sick person Justin. You need to really get some help. For one thing my God and your god are two different Gods. The only ones in America who are pissed off are those who are liberal, socialist, and those who hate God and America. My God doesn't send someone like Glen Beck because he is a conservative and speaks the truth. Like the bible says that in end times there will be those who call evil good and good evil. And you fight right into that boat. You are a mockery to those who love America and love God.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: YOU and your conservatives are the ones making a mockery of our nation. Last time I checked, Liberals do not hate God, and we all share the same God as yours, but with a different interpretation.

Lonesome Rhodes Beck does NOT speak the truth at all, and neither does anyone on the Right.

Ronald Martin

you are still mentally sick. i wish i could help you. those who hate conservatives and the tea party, are those who hate God and America.

nobody interprets the bible like you do. thank God no one else does. there would be no christians in the world

and there will be a time soon when you have to answer God with your hatred that's in your heart. God will judge you because it's not like you are a person that's dumb or mentally retarded. You know what's right and wrong.

Justin Gibson

Guess who's mentally ill? Conservatives like you. There will ALWAYS be Christians in the world, with different variants.

God will judge me and say "You're allowed in Heaven."
Ron, YOU'RE gonna have to answer to God for all the anti-Liberal, anti-Union, Pro-Fixed News, and anti-Obama rhetoric you spew.

Ronald Martin well God knows i am on the right side. i never really realized how sick of a person you are. what God do you belong to? Is it buddist?

Justin Gibson

@Ron: I am a Christian, and share the same God as you.

Ronald Martin

And for one thing my God would not be liberal, because God is against abortion. He would not be pro union because the bible says not to trust in men but God. And all unions give money to the socialist party liberals. And don't cry but America voted fox news number one in America. And for God to support obama is like supportig hitler.

You are wrong again.

Justin Gibson @Ron: Obama is NOTHING like Hilter-- looks like you've been spending too much time on FreeRepublic.com and Fixed Nation. And God would be FOR Unions, not against. Faux News is #1 at 2 things: Good-looking women and misinforming the public into lies. As a matter of fact, the hotel I'm staying at in Branson has RNC NewsChannel on in their lobby.

Ronald Martin

You are wrong because my God would never support liberalism, socialism or communism. If you are a christian then so was hitler. The bible says that you can know if a person is a christian by there fruits. And you don't have any. And my God would never give money to unions who support socialism and hate America.

I believe that Martha MacCallum should spank Bill Hemmer really good for lying to the American people.

Ronald Martin

she is on the right side / the conservative right because she has brains

Steven Dudley

I am no fan of Palin but really things like this are pretty unproductive. She is not in public office so attacking her makes the issue personalities rather than issues. By making personal attacks on her it only makes her more popular with the right and allows her to claim to be the victim.

Ronald Martin

You are right Steven. But you must know Justin personally. He has some mental issues. This is what is what is waking up america. The hatred that liberal and socialism that's in america.

Justin Gibson

@Ron: I took a look at Steven D.'s page: It is VERY Progressive friendly (examples, fan of Jack Conway, HuffPo, etc...)

Steven Dudley

What does socialism have to do with personal attacks? Sure it is petty but I don't quite see how it's related to economic policy exactly.

It is not a surprise to me that someone on my face book friends list is anti sarah palin. For one she is a woman and a born again christian. And for some people who are liberal that is a no no. If you were to read all of this persons face book page. You can see that the majority of people in society don't think this way. If they did this would be a more evil society to live in.

Justin Gibson

The majority of the people are NOT big Palin fans, including me. I think Palin will harm America more than Obama or even Bush The Election Thief would ever do.

The bible is very clear taht in end times. There will be those who call evil good and good evil. All you can do is pray for this person that God will open there heart and will be saved. God wiil not force his love or salvation on anyone. No make seeks God at all. It is his spirit who draws a person to repentance. The bible says that few people will inherit heaven.

Ronald Martin you are a sore loser justin / you are only speaking for yourself / when you say most you are lying.

Ronald Martin

This is where you are wrong again justin. Even your own liberal media brodcast that there are more people who support her than other wise. Also 40% of the tea party are democrats or independents. And that 60% of those who voted for obama would not vote for him in the next election. Does this mean your liberal media is lying on these issues ? It is a laugh if you think people will choose socialism over sarah palin.

Nicki Shadowens Zimmerman

I LOVE Sarah Palin!!!!

Justin Gibson

@Nicki: I'm not that big of a Palin fan (or any GOPer for that matter), but you (and your 2 daughters, Brooke and Brianna) are still nice people to meet.

Ronald Martin

It is also wrong justin that you wishing evil on people who are quote conservatives, tea party, and christians. If everyone wanted people dead because they are one of the above. This would be a sick society. You need to give your heart and life to Jesus. But he will not force his will on yours. The slander you speak of people on your face book is wrong in my Gods eyes. If you can look in the mirror with the things you say about people. And not feel no guilt or remorse. Then there is something wrong.

Ronald Martin

Nicki: If sarah palin was a liberal and believed in everything that jusin believed in. He would support her in a heart beat. He only dislikes her because the media and liberals hate her. Nothing more.

Ronald Martin

If you don't want to be exposed to the hatred then don't read his face book. I wanted to give everyone this warning.

Ronald Martin

Since i know that brooke and brianna are on the same page justin. You would be degrading and slandering them the same as you do I. There is something wrong justin. This is not Christ Like justin.

Ronald Martin You will justin have to answer God for All your hatred comments. God will not wish that people should be killed if they are conservatives. tea party followers, or christians. No normal person thinks this way. Think about it


"The reason most people don't love God is because they don't love themselves. If they loved themselves they would love God. Because it's only God who knows and wants what's best for us. And that is knowing and serving him. Any person can say that they are a christian and loves God. If a person says they are right with God and they are a christian. And going around saying and wishing a person was dead because you don't agree with them. There is something really wrong."

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Justin Gibson

These Right-Wingers that vandalized the message board are a bunch of punks. If they wanted to put "Under God", then they can get their own billboard.

Ronald Martin

Justin you are so anti-christ. If a christian had billboards put up and an atheist defaced it. You would be so happy. Your hatred towards God is scary.

Justin Gibson

I think what the sign vandals did was wrong. If an atheist or a Liberal did this, they'd be called out for it too. Ron, you are defending a law-breaker only because he is a Conservative and agrees with your views. I bet if that person in question was a Liberal, you'd be saying "Lock that person up and jail that person." Shows how most Repukes are 2-faced people.

Ronald Martin

there you go again judging justin / you were the one whole automatically said it was christians who did it / that is the problem with liberalism / they accuse before they know the facts / and as far as that goes /no matter who it is should be equally punished / but it's odd you are for illegal immigration and you think they shouldn't be punished / for one thing justin I have to look in the mirror

@Ron: I am NOT for illegal immigration, but that Arizona SB1070 Bill is offensive, vile, racist, and should be thrown out.

Ronald Martin

it never bothers you to automatically accuse someone of something because if they are quote a christian , tea party supporter, or conservative. And you never have one once of proof. If the liberal socialist media says it you believe it without any proof.

Justin Gibson

Ronald, it is people like you that want the USA as a Theocracy! The US was NEVER intended to be a place where one religion dominates over the others officially... but the Conservative Fundies want a Wahabbi/Niyazov-style rule in our country.

I looked at the article, and it would be some Christian Conservative would do such an insane thing like vandalize a pro-Atheist billboard.

Ronald Martin Her you go again judging justin. How do you know it wasn't your atheist or liberal friends. When you automatically judge someone only because you think they are conservatives, tea party supporters, or christians. You are judging people that you have no idea who did it. How do you know that it's not one of you atheist or liberal friends?
Think about it everytime you slander are accuse someone of something that you don't have any proof of who did it.

You are telling more lies justin. You know when you accuse christians of something they haven't done. You are slapping Jesus in the face. That is scary.

Justin Gibson

Ron, I am NOT slapping Jesus in the face. But I'm sure Glenn Beck, Dana Loesch, and their ilk deserve it for lying to the American people.

My mail to Dana Loesch:


On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Justin Gibson wrote:
Dear Dana, I know that I am die-hard Liberal who supports Obama. You, however, are a lying piece of shit fraud that's spoken ill of Robert Byrd's recent death. Shame on you, Ms. Liar-esch!! You will be rigging the polling machines here in Missouri come November.

Adam Shriver, me, and the Riverfront Times have called you out for your falsehoods that you've been spewing out on air and on your blog.
http://stlactivisthub.blogspot.com/search/label/dana%20loesch

Also, I have a Daily Kos posting that calls you out for the scumbag that you are: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/4/22/859814/-Dana-Loesch-and-St.-Louis-Craziness


You seriously believe that Elena Kagan isn't qualified to be SCOTUS judge (I believe that Kagan deserves the SCOTUS seat)? Dana, you're so demented and out of your mind. I bet the Teabagger media pulled this same stunt with Sotomayor last year.

Finally, Dana, you either quit your inane "I hate Democrats" behavior, or you'll end up losing -100,000,000,000 Cool Points, plus be subjected to a burning in Hell and/or with a cactus up your face!!!!
I've also seen and taken screen shots of the various threats you have directed at me online and am from here on out am forwarding any correspondence from you to the authorities.

I take all threats seriously whether you intend them to be or not.

You have an inability to disagree with people without making real or vague threats and it will not be tolerated. I also reserve the right to publish in full, as according to my disclaimer, any and all correspondence as, once sent, it becomes my property.

Ronald Martin

It bothers you liberals and socialist that Glen Beck is a christian. They have to look in the mirror but you won't. Because yo won't like what you see. You liberals can't discuss the issues because you know they are the deceivers in American politics. Most people like you hate God and the Constitution of the United States. You would rather live in Communism than freedom.

Justin Gibson

Um, Ron, We Liberals can discuss the issues and we also like God and the Constitution. I'd rather live in freedom than the Iran/Saudi-style religious tyranny fantasies you Biblethumpers want to impose on the USA. It is the Conservatives, Teabaggers, and Repunks that are the corrupt deceivers of our country.

Ronald Martin

There you go again judging Gods people. Do you know the consequences of God when you judge his people? When you judge his people you judge him. You say you like God and turn around and contradict yourself by calling christians biblethumpers. What are christians suppose to thump? It sure isn't your socialism and communism.

Not ALL Christians are the Biblethumper-types, and that includes me.

The "Biblethumpers" are the people who force Christianity (esp. the Conservative Fundie version) down people's throats.

The term Biblethumper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_thumper

Ronald Martin

Does your pastor know justin the hatred you have towards people. Especially if they are quote biblethumpers, conservatives, tea party supporters, or christians ? You don't have no shame or remorse because you aren't a christian. You are what people call religious. As the bible says you honor God with your lips but your heart is far from him. Most people know that people life you don't act that way if your heart is right with God.

Ronald Martin

sorry / like

Justin Gibson

I'm sure you have hatred towards Liberals.

Ronald Martin

Sorry that I don't hate anyone because of there political belief. You are the one as being a liberal that slanders and downs people because they aren't a liberal or socialist. All anyone with common sense has to do is look at your face book and know where your heart is. And it sure doesn't include God.

Justin Gibson

@Ronald: You are getting your talking points from Dana Loesch, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Oxycontin Smuggler, Fixed News, etc...

You are a coward for posting conservative-biased stuff and then remove it off your page. That's what cowards do!

Ronald Martin

For one thing I don't listen to the people you mention. And it takes a lot more courage to be a conservative then a liberal or socialist. The reason I take off what you put on my face book. Is people ask me all the time about your insanity. They feel that you have a lot of screws loose and that you need mental help. I only do it to protect you because you are a laughing stock. I am more prideful to be a christian conservative then an atheist liberal. Think about it.

I am NOT an insane man and don't need mental help for being a liberal.

Ronald Martin

You tell me all the time people you don't like should be shot and killed is not having a stable mind Justin. There is no one that I know personally who has the hatred you have in your heart towards others. If you turned your life over to God he would show you how to love other people. And not to go around slandering people who are christians, tea party supporters, and conservatives. I have never seen a person who is degrading like you. That is scary.

It's the Teabagging Conservatives that are scary and ruining the nation.

Ronald Martin

Those people who you talk about being the tea party make up most of America. To say people should be afraid of the tea party is what you hear on your liberal and socialism media. Only ones who fear the people you fear are those who love America and are willing to fight for it.

Ronald Martin

You call most of the people who love this country ruining it ? Conservatism has been around in American history. Socialism and Communism hasn't. Ben laden would love you for talking down and slandering America. By the way isn't it that is what most liberals do ?

Justin Gibson

Most Liberals DO NOT slander America, but many of you Conservaloons do because there is a Democrat in office. If Bush or any Repub was in office, then yous would label anyone who criticizes Bush or any Conservative/Rethuglican an "un-American traitor."

The Tea Party members do NOT make up most of America, but most of them are the Republicans and the GOP-leaning Independents.

Ronald Martin

LATEST POLL ON THE NEWS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. 40% TEA PARTY SUPPORTERS ARE DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS. AND THAT NUMBER IS RISING DAILY. YOU CAN TELL YOU ARE A LIBERAL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THAT OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA WITH HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP. SO YOU LIBERALS MOCK TRUE AMERICANS BY MAKING IT A RACE GAME. SAYING IF THE DIDN'T LOVE FOR OBAMA THAT MEANS YOU ARE A RACIST. YOU ARE SO UPSET BECAUSE WE CONSERVATIVES WOULD RATHER WORSHIP GOD AND NOT OBAMA.

Justin Gibson

Obama Approval Polls: 46-45 Favor (Gallup), 46.6-46.5 Favor (RCP Average), 45-54 Disfavor (Rasmussen), 48-46 Favor (Newsweek).

Palin (Pollster.com): 35.6-52.3 Disfavor

Tea Party Approval Polls: Most of the 40% claim that Democrats and Independents combined is false.

I bet almost all of the Democrats disapproved of the Tea Parties 94-6.
Most of the Independents that support the Tea Parties are GOP-leaning/Libertarian-leaning. Also, a majority of the Tea Partiers are Republicans.

Ronald Martin

THE SAD PART IS MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE WISER AND SMARTER KNOW WHAT YOU PUT ON FACE BOOK ARE LIES. THIS IN NOT UNCOMMON AMONGST MOST LIBERALS AND SOCIALIST. AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHOM YOU DEGRADE OR SLANDER ARE ON YOU FACE BOOK. EXCEPT THOSE WHO ARE LIBERALS OR SOCIALIST. AT LEAST HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES LOVE AMERICA JUSTIN.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TO YOU BECAUSE THEY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

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